NC State takes care of home business, beating Furman 49-16. Up next, the Pack starts the ACC portion of their schedule, travelling to Tallahassee, 23 Sep @ 12:00, broadcast on ABC.

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  • Derreck's Avatar
    19th September 2017, 09:29
    Derreck replied to a thread @ #11 Florida State in Football
    Maybe its complete homerism, but I feel good about Saturday. It seems like a perfect storm. FSU has not played in 2 weeks, new starters on the O-line and at QB, our team has had a chance to work out kinks over the last few weeks. If, and its an if, we can win it completely flips the SC game and we are back on track to meet this season's expectations.
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  • Derreck's Avatar
    19th September 2017, 09:10
    Derreck replied to a thread @ #11 Florida State in Football
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=591&v=o8GKM_aKsA0
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  • LSmith's Avatar
    19th September 2017, 08:42
    LSmith replied to a thread @ #11 Florida State in Football
    Yea they have not played since week 1 while we like most teams are prepping for our 4th game. Don't know if that is good or bad but throw in their uncertainty at QB and it could be interesting. Of course we must play a lot better than we have so far this season to make it interesting.
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  • Derreck's Avatar
    19th September 2017, 06:48
    Derreck replied to a thread @ #11 Florida State in Football
    And because of the situation that FSU is in, we have no film on the starting QB so we really have no idea how to prepare. On the other hand, he has no game experience and starts his college career against one of the best d-lines in the nation. Saturday is going to be interesting.
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  • Derreck's Avatar
    19th September 2017, 06:47
    Derreck replied to a thread Furman in Football
    This was a no win situation for our team. You should beat Furman and beat them badly. Anything aside from that and it is considered a disappointment. I guess that is what we saw here, a disappointment.
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  • Ken Stallings's Avatar
    18th September 2017, 10:40
    Well, fun time's over! It's a road game to start the ACC season, at #11 Florida State. Ken
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  • Stephen Sparks's Avatar
    17th September 2017, 21:29
    Stephen Sparks replied to a thread Furman in Football
    We won, quite impressively I believe. Yup the secondary was terrible and we still don't have a kicker but 8-4 is still achievable. In any case it's time to put the big boy pants on. The ACC season starts next week.
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  • LSmith's Avatar
    16th September 2017, 13:30
    LSmith replied to a thread Furman in Football
    Lol!! I was thinking the same thing. I would say a rather ho hum effort today in a 49-16 win. Furman is in a rebuilding stage with a new coach, starting 18 freshman and coming off 3 straight losing seasons. They came into this game 0-2 with losses against Wofford and Elon. Did not expect the game to still be in reach at the half. I guess you can say we took care of business in the 2nd. half. Still not seeing much year to year improvement under Doeren.
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  • Ken Stallings's Avatar
    16th September 2017, 13:01
    Ken Stallings replied to a thread Furman in Football
    Would Furman entertain any trade offers for their kicker? Ken
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  • Ken Stallings's Avatar
    16th September 2017, 12:57
    Ken Stallings replied to a thread Furman in Football
    For the love of God and all that's human! Would someone beat an essential truth in to our secondary that late in the second half you don't need to bite on the option run when you're leading by four scores! Stop selling out to stop the run! The only touchdown Furman has scored in this game was on a blown pass coverage, and they almost scored another on the same thing. My prompt to write this comment was a third such example! Ken
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  • Ken Stallings's Avatar
    16th September 2017, 11:48
    Ken Stallings replied to a thread Furman in Football
    How many times does our secondary get toasted before these players keep their heads in the game! Ken
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  • Ken Stallings's Avatar
    16th September 2017, 11:05
    Ken Stallings replied to a thread Furman in Football
    How the hell can Furman have a place kicker vastly better than the two we have! Seriously! We couldn't recruit this kid for NC State? Ken
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  • D Wolf's Avatar
    15th September 2017, 15:20
    D Wolf replied to a thread Recruiting update: in Men's Basketball
    Yep. Great get. Good job Coach Keatts! Keep working on those Oak Hill boys.
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  • Ken Stallings's Avatar
    15th September 2017, 11:01
    Now this is a big deal, in all ways. One of the most talented power forwards in the class. Ken
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  • Derreck's Avatar
    15th September 2017, 08:46
    http://247sports.com/Player/Immanuel-Bates-45572606 Immanuel Bates Commits https://insidepacksports.com/s/378/watch-manny-bates-press-conference Here is press conference
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  • LSmith's Avatar
    14th September 2017, 21:38
    LSmith replied to a thread Furman in Football
    Yep. Better win impressively. I was surprised to see on Furman's website that they actually lead the all time series against us 8-4-4. I know 2 of their victories against us was when they were coached by Dick Sheridan but don't know where the other 6 victories and 4 ties came from. I assume before I was born and I was born a long long time ago. Furman has always been a successful well coached program in D1AA and now FCS through the years. They have been a little down the past few years. I played against their 1rst year head coach Clay Hendrix. He was only about 5-8 but a hard hitting bull dog on their O-Line. Interestingly enough he got his coaching start as an assistant at NC State under his former coach Dick Sheridan. We should roll in this game on talent alone but I am glad we are playing them under Clay's 1rst season because I feel he will bring back the old Paladin power house that he played for under Sheridan. And once he does, like Sheridan, maybe we will hire him LOL!!!!!!!
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  • Derreck's Avatar
    14th September 2017, 12:21
    Derreck replied to a thread Marshall in Football
    This should absolutely be the goal.
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  • D Wolf's Avatar
    14th September 2017, 11:37
    D Wolf replied to a thread Marshall in Football
    I agree.....and that's not a bad place to be.
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  • Matt Nicholson's Avatar
    14th September 2017, 07:20
    Matt Nicholson replied to a thread Marshall in Football
    We will NEVER be Alabama. Our target should be VaTech: best in the state, always good, occasionally exceptional.
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  • Derreck's Avatar
    14th September 2017, 06:54
    Looks like we will have 4 starters in the NFL this week with Rivers, Wilson, Glennon, and Brissett all getting the start!
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  • Derreck's Avatar
    14th September 2017, 06:52
    Derreck replied to a thread Marshall in Football
    Yea, TOB took a lot of blame for the Russell Wilson thing and it was more Russell than TOB. But Russell was also an Amato recruit, not a TOB recruit. Also from what I heard, the kicker was instructed to kick away from the returner and messed it up. Also one of the reasons it was a TD, the coverage team was caught off guard because it was kicked to him. Its funny you mention HWSNBN. I compared TOB to him when he was hired.
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  • Derreck's Avatar
    14th September 2017, 06:31
    Derreck started a thread Furman in Football
    Better win, that's all I got.
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  • LSmith's Avatar
    13th September 2017, 22:06
    LSmith replied to a thread Marshall in Football
    I liked TOB. His biggest down fall was his personality that was very similar to HWSNBM (Hope I got the acronym right but hell his name was Herb). I thought we played good fundamental football under TOB. He did not recruit great but got a lot out of his players and could develop players. We forget that Russell Wilson was a low level 2 star. Ultimately it was his decision to go with Glennon when Wilson was flirting with baseball his graduate year and Wilson decided to transfer to Wisconsin that did not set well with Pack fans. I always stood behind TOB's decision on that. Everybody said TOB could not take us to the next level and I am inclined to agree with that too but how do we define the next level?? TOB had the records that Derreck mentioned above but also won 5 straight against the "holes" and was fired not long after his only loss to UNC on a damn last second punt return. That return I put all on TOB and staff but was about the only coaching blunder I can remember from his staff. TOB was not a perfect coach and I believe we can do better but I am believing with every season that Doeren is a step down from TOB. TOB could not get us to the next level. Let's define what the next level is as Pack fans. It is certainly not on the level as Alabama but it should be the best football program in the state of NC and consistently having winning records in the ACC and good bowl games. TOB was there but maybe if he had the personality of Amato???
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  • Matt Nicholson's Avatar
    12th September 2017, 20:53
    After 2 weeks, I'm going with 5-7, with an outside shot at 6-6.
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  • Matt Nicholson's Avatar
    12th September 2017, 20:50
    Matt Nicholson replied to a thread Marshall in Football
    I have to agree we seem to have peaked with Sheridan. I'd like to give Amato any credit, but when you have an NFL HOF-level QB for 4 years and can't win a conference title, that's on you. Plus his teams were incredibly undisciplined.
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  • D Wolf's Avatar
    12th September 2017, 13:57
    D Wolf replied to a thread 2017-2018 Schedule in Men's Basketball
    Agreed. This schedule is a no confidence vote.
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  • D Wolf's Avatar
    12th September 2017, 13:55
    D Wolf replied to a thread Recruiting update: in Men's Basketball
    Don't mean to bad mouth the kid, but his stock had gone down some over the summer from what I understand. If Keatts is able to get some of these Oak Hill kids he's courting we'll be fine without Lewis.
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  • Derreck's Avatar
    12th September 2017, 10:35
    Derreck replied to a thread Marshall in Football
    Pretty much my expectation as well. We kinda had that with TOB, our last three years under TOB we went 9-4(5-3), 8-5(4-4), and 7-5(4-4). His last 3 years at BC he went 9-3(4-2 Big East), 9-3(5-3 ACC), and 9-3 (5-3 ACC). BC finished tied for 1st and 2nd in the Atlantic under TOB. I would beg for those results now.
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  • Prowling Woofie's Avatar
    12th September 2017, 10:22
    Prowling Woofie replied to a thread Marshall in Football
    Good post, LSmith, and pretty much sums up my feelings, as well. I don't expect National Championships, but NC State shouldn't have to sweat out victories over Marshall, ECU, Wake Forest, even Duke, for crying out loud. As much as I hate them, a .500 record with UNX wouldn't be unbearable, given that they are our biggest rival, and back and forth rivalries are the best. A caveat - my background is that of a die-hard ACC basketball fan, and I've always considered ACC football as "the other sport." A nice diversion until hoops season arrives. However, with our 30 year irrelevance in basketball, football has taken a larger portion of the spotlight for me, out of desperation 😉
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  • LSmith's Avatar
    12th September 2017, 09:42
    LSmith replied to a thread Marshall in Football
    See I don't think we are getting 3 star results. Usually 3 stars can tackle better, block better, and cover better. I have never expected to recruit and compete at the level of Alabama, FSU, Clemson, and Ohio state and be a perennial top 5 national program. That would be an extreme undertaking in the recruiting market we are in. I do expect us to be the best program in the state of NC every dang season. That is not too much to expect. There is no program in this State who should out recruit us. We should never lose to a 3-9 ECU team and certainly not have them out hit and out hustle us like they did last season. I thank God we have not had to play App State the past few years. I will gladly take a team that averages 8 wins a year, beat in state rivals consistently, and have winning conference records and occasionally have the break through 10 win season and beats a Clemson or FSU on a given Saturday. We have had that before and to get there again we need to play a lot more fundamentally sound football than we have played under Doeren.
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  • Ken Stallings's Avatar
    11th September 2017, 23:15
    Ken Stallings replied to a thread Marshall in Football
    Hate to pose an uncomfortable question ... But what if we hit our program's sustained ceiling with Dick Sheridan and the temporary but unsustainable ceiling with Chuck Amato? Ken
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  • Prowling Woofie's Avatar
    11th September 2017, 22:23
    Prowling Woofie replied to a thread Marshall in Football
    Three star recruits give you three star results... DD hit his ceiling in the MAC, I'm afraid.
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  • Derreck's Avatar
    11th September 2017, 09:24
    Derreck replied to a thread Marshall in Football
    It appears to be the case so far, neither South Carolina nor Marshall went down field much on us. Alston is getting picked on a lot and we do not seem to have an answer.
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  • Matt Nicholson's Avatar
    11th September 2017, 08:41
    We really need to find 1 or 2 P5 opponents and 1 or 2 VCU-level mid-majors to do home/home series with, outside of any tournament/change we enter. That's just pathetic.
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  • Matt Nicholson's Avatar
    11th September 2017, 08:34
    Matt Nicholson replied to a thread Marshall in Football
    If that's the situation and plan, then we'll go into the UNC game needing a win to be bowl eligible. And that's completely inexcusable in year 5 with a team full of seniors.
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  • Derreck's Avatar
    11th September 2017, 06:50
    Yea, this is a pretty poor OOC schedule, Reminds me of the ol' Herb days of scheduling.
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  • Derreck's Avatar
    11th September 2017, 06:47
    Derreck replied to a thread Marshall in Football
    South Carolina gave everyone the blueprint on how to beat us. Quick throws to negate our front 7 and our secondary just cannot cover. LSmith is correct, this is not a quick fix.
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  • LSmith's Avatar
    10th September 2017, 15:02
    LSmith replied to a thread Marshall in Football
    The problems I see with our defensive secondary is not a quick fix that can be done during the season. We are going to have to out score opponents in high scoring "track meets" to get to any decent bowl this season.
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  • Matt Nicholson's Avatar
    10th September 2017, 00:33
    My only expectation for this year is to see a team consistently play good fundamental basketball. It's been way too long since I've seen that.
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  • Matt Nicholson's Avatar
    10th September 2017, 00:29
    Matt Nicholson replied to a thread Marshall in Football
    It's obvious we fired the wrong coordinator 2 years ago. For 5 seasons now, our D has consistently given up The BIG Play. Game after game. Huxtable D is going to keep us from ever being more than a 6 or 7 win team.
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  • Matt Nicholson's Avatar
    10th September 2017, 00:24
    Outside of the teams assigned to us in the challenges, that's one of the worst schedules I've ever seen. Is anyone in the top 100 RPI?
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  • Ken Stallings's Avatar
    9th September 2017, 19:22
    Ken Stallings replied to a thread Marshall in Football
    The same Marshall offense that was largely ineffective against Miami of Ohio was able to torch our secondary to the tune of 350 yards. Only a good defensive stop against four plays from first and goal kept the margin comfortable. The Pack has the ball with 1:34 left in the game and Marshall with just one time out. Victory formation should be able to salt this one away. The fact that Marshall scored 20 points in sustained offensive drives comes down almost entirely to an extremely weak defensive secondary. The Herds' receiver corps and quarterback are good, but they aren't a collection of NFL starters. However, the same is not the case for the top three teams in the ACC Atlantic. Those players are elite in college football and likely will play in the NFL. As it is, Marshall's Tyre Brady set a Carter-Finley record by an opponent for receiving yards, with 248 all to his own. The other problem is the special teams. We missed a field goal, shanked an extra point, nearly shanked wide a second extra point attempt, and got the benefit of a penalty that called back another returned kick off for a touchdown. Special teams is a dumpster fire that also need correction. It is hard to win if your secondary cannot stop the pass and your special teams cannot get you points and surrenders too many of its own. And sadly, if these two glaring weaknesses aren't corrected, then no amount of NFL caliber talent on the defensive line can win the games.
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  • Ken Stallings's Avatar
    9th September 2017, 19:14
    Ken Stallings replied to a thread Marshall in Football
    I shudder to think what the receivers and quarterbacks for Louisville, Clemson and Florida State will do to our secondary! Ken
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  • Stephen Sparks's Avatar
    9th September 2017, 17:45
    Stephen Sparks replied to a thread Marshall in Football
    Pack up 23-20 at the Half. It's been a see saw battle all the way. I really don't know what to think about this team so far. We don't look that good at all. Maybe they put it all together during TD second.
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  • Stephen Sparks's Avatar
    9th September 2017, 17:42
    Stephen Sparks replied to a thread Marshall in Football
    Big TD, Finley to Harmon for the score!!! Misses the PAT!!! We still don't have a kicker. State up 23-20 with 00:16 left to go in the 2nd QTR.
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  • Ken Stallings's Avatar
    9th September 2017, 17:41
    Ken Stallings replied to a thread Marshall in Football
    Very impressive catch by Kelvin Harmon to beat excellent man coverage to score the go ahead touchdown on a 30 yard fly pattern. However, Carson Wise missed the extra point, and frankly the one prior to that shank he hit the left upright! Our kicking game is still as woeful as it was last season, and that's going to hurt us. Ken
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  • Ken Stallings's Avatar
    9th September 2017, 17:27
    Ken Stallings replied to a thread Marshall in Football
    Drinkwitz might be the best coach we have. At least he knows how to make adjustments to the game plan! Marshall's defense was swarming to the ball. The way you beat that is misdirection. The first touchdown pass was a fake jet sweep to the right and pass to the left flat. The second one was a flea flicker. Both times, Marshall's defenders sold out for the initial direction of the apparent play and were out of position. Now, can the defense make some adjustments, especially to the secondary coverages, and make some stops! Ken
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  • Ken Stallings's Avatar
    9th September 2017, 17:19
    Ken Stallings replied to a thread Marshall in Football
    Just when we get some momentum, the secondary gets torched again! This time a 75 yard TD pass completion that featured 65 yards of YAC because the defender in man coverage blew the tackle. This team has glaring talent gaps. A coach worth ten cents will know how to exploit this team's weaknesses and avoid the strengths. Ken
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  • Stephen Sparks's Avatar
    9th September 2017, 17:14
    Stephen Sparks replied to a thread Marshall in Football
    TD STEPH LOUIS!!!! Still down 13-9 with the PAT upcoming. It's Good. 13-10 Herd though.
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  • Ken Stallings's Avatar
    9th September 2017, 17:03
    Ken Stallings replied to a thread Marshall in Football
    Our secondary is almost inept and seems completely incapable of covering a quality receiver in man coverage. After having Marshall bottled up on 3-11 on their own 18 yard line, they heaved a fly pattern to a receiver who's been burning our secondary all day, and he was a step and a half in front of the defender. He caught the pass in stride for a near fifty yard chunk of yardage. This QB and receiver combination is going to eat well over 100 yards in the first half at the rate they are going (Litton and Williams). Ken
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