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#19 NC State loses in disappointing fashion at Wake Forest 30-24, which will likely put the Pack out of the national rankings.

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  • packinjax's Avatar
    20th November 2017, 05:12
    packinjax replied to a thread UNC in Football
    This will either make the season good or bleh...
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  • Ken Stallings's Avatar
    19th November 2017, 19:55
    Ken Stallings replied to a thread #3 Arizona in Men's Basketball
    Actually, Nassau in the Bahamas, not Bermuda! Ken
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  • Ken Stallings's Avatar
    19th November 2017, 19:52
    Well, we soon get to see what kind of team we truly have. This Wednesday (22 Nov) at 19:00 we play #3 ranked Arizona in Bermuda — Battle for Atlantis. Go Pack! Ken
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  • Ken Stallings's Avatar
    19th November 2017, 19:08
    I think what’s being proven is that if you can play tough shutdown defense then no game is out of reach, and if you can’t then no lead is truly safe. Ken
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  • Ken Stallings's Avatar
    19th November 2017, 17:09
    Ken Stallings replied to a thread UNC in Football
    I think your questions are fair, Matt. But, to be on the truly elite level of Clemson, we have to recruit like them. For sheer disappointment and underperformance, one would hard pressed to find an example more glaring than FSU. An eight to nine win season season in the ACC Atlantic might well be the ceiling for a team with our recruiting patterns. To consistently be at the ten to nine win level, we need to recruit consistently at the four and five star levels. Ken
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  • Ken Stallings's Avatar
    19th November 2017, 17:04
    Ken Stallings replied to a thread @ Wake Forest in Football
    Wake is a better team than we thought they were. The play on the fumble was their hustle. Only one team in the ACC Atlantic may not earn a bowl bid this year. All but Syracuse and Florida State already have. Ken
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  • Matt Nicholson's Avatar
    19th November 2017, 13:21
    We lose this game the last 2 years. So, there's that. We need Abu back in a big way.
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  • Matt Nicholson's Avatar
    19th November 2017, 13:19
    Matt Nicholson replied to a thread @ Wake Forest in Football
    500 yards of offense. 24 points. How is that even possible?
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  • Matt Nicholson's Avatar
    19th November 2017, 13:18
    Matt Nicholson replied to a thread UNC in Football
    Home team has not done well at all in this game recently. That has to change. Our guys are much faster at the skill positions. If we win, we'll be 8-4 in a league with a terrible FSU and Louisville. If this is as good as it gets, we're going to have to ask ourselves if we're OK being a 6-6 team that occasionally wins 7 or 8 games. Lose this game to the worst UNC team in a generation, and we need to really ask some tough questions.
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  • Ken Stallings's Avatar
    19th November 2017, 13:09
    Ken Stallings replied to a thread @ Wake Forest in Football
    Don't play the victim! Your mannerisms here have been decidedly negative and persistently so. It has been exceedingly rare that anyone has replied about it, but necessary now. A positive mental outlook is a force multiplier. Ken
    21 replies | 291 view(s)
  • Prowling Woofie's Avatar
    18th November 2017, 22:10
    Prowling Woofie replied to a thread @ Wake Forest in Football
    Sorry, the likely prospect of losing 4 out of our last 5 games isn’t very cheery. Being chastised for being realistic, given our history, wears a little thin, too.
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  • Prowling Woofie's Avatar
    18th November 2017, 22:05
    Prowling Woofie replied to a thread UNC in Football
    Now we’ll be 10 point dogs....
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  • Ken Stallings's Avatar
    18th November 2017, 21:55
    Ken Stallings replied to a thread @ Wake Forest in Football
    No they won't, and your doom and gloom is frankly wearing very thin! Ken
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  • Prowling Woofie's Avatar
    18th November 2017, 21:54
    Prowling Woofie replied to a thread @ Wake Forest in Football
    Have fun in Shreveport, folks !!!! UNC will blow this team away next weekend, wait and see.
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  • Mad Gene Vane's Avatar
    18th November 2017, 21:51
    Mad Gene Vane replied to a thread @ Wake Forest in Football
    Disappointing. Best we can finish is 8-4. Some progress, but not a leap.
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  • Ken Stallings's Avatar
    18th November 2017, 21:49
    Ken Stallings replied to a thread @ Wake Forest in Football
    Only the second game all year that I've truly been disappointed in our team. We had every opportunity to win this game and two turnovers in a row gave Wake the victory, the first being an entirely needless decision by a freshman receiver to try to extend the ball over the goal line when he likely would have been tackled falling into the end zone for the tying score. The second turnover was a result of a bad mental decision by Finley to throw the ball in the middle of the field for less than a first down gain, with no timeouts. That forced a hurried play and then Finley decided to make a final desperate throw into the end zone that was picked off in double coverage. Poor decision making by Finley and poor clock management. Ken
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  • Prowling Woofie's Avatar
    18th November 2017, 19:59
    Prowling Woofie replied to a thread @ Wake Forest in Football
    Gotta hope we’re deeper than they are, and are therefore fresher in the fourth quarter. They look plenty fresh in the first half.... 21-14, Wake.
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  • Prowling Woofie's Avatar
    18th November 2017, 19:24
    Prowling Woofie replied to a thread @ Wake Forest in Football
    The D-Line needs to beat up on that QB. He’s going to carve our secondary up, otherwise. 14-7, Wake...
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  • Prowling Woofie's Avatar
    18th November 2017, 18:56
    Prowling Woofie replied to a thread @ Wake Forest in Football
    Good response ! 7-7
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  • Prowling Woofie's Avatar
    18th November 2017, 18:52
    Prowling Woofie replied to a thread @ Wake Forest in Football
    Punched in the mouth early; let’s see what we’ve got !
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  • Ken Stallings's Avatar
    18th November 2017, 12:11
    Ken Stallings replied to a thread UNC in Football
    A bit too soon as we haven't played Wake Forest. Game time is 19:30 tonight. Ken
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  • Prowling Woofie's Avatar
    18th November 2017, 10:06
    Prowling Woofie started a thread UNC in Football
    Speaking of disrespect - opening line has the Pack favored by a whopping 1.5 points at Home, on Senior Day, against a two win Tarholes team. Steam should be coming out of every player’s ears today and next week !!!
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  • D Wolf's Avatar
    17th November 2017, 07:20
    L, I agree that Al Freeman has some T Lacy in him and that Dorn has some clutch player in him, although perhaps a different flavor than Lacy; more of a "find a way to score" kind. Regarding the 3 pt shooting percentage, I'm wondering if the relentless aggression on the defensive end is impacting their shooting. If so, I'll take the trade off. But also, it may be something they will adjust to as they get more used to playing at this tempo.
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  • Ken Stallings's Avatar
    17th November 2017, 00:36
    My apologies. We were creating threads literally within minutes of each other. Thanks! Ken
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  • LSmith's Avatar
    16th November 2017, 23:44
    LSmith replied to a thread @ Wake Forest in Football
    Wake has been a "2nd half" team this season and also a team that has had a lot of luck. They came from behind and out scored Syracuse by a lot the 2nd half of that game. They outscored Notre Dame the 2nd half and came back and made it a game. They got stomped physically on the LOS the 1rst half against App State and responded well the 2nd half and had a lot of luck at the end with the made fg blocked fg and penalty to come away we a win. They are well coached and playing with a lot of confidence. This game will come down to the 3rd quarter. We have to be a lot better than we have been this season responding to half time adjustments. Wake ihas been very good at it. Like the BC game a win in Winston will take a lot of guts and grit. Maybe not as ugly as in BC and I think we will be a lot more successful on offense but will still have to gut out a win. That is football and that is what we have done so far this season is winning the games we are suppose to win. That is all I ask. GO PACK!!!!!
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  • LSmith's Avatar
    16th November 2017, 22:56
    My take on tonight's performance: 1 for 13 (7.7%) from behind the arc. Ouch! Ouch! Ouch!!! I cannot remember a Pack team ever having a single digit percentage from behind the arc on a given night and I like everyone in this forum have seen some horrible shooting over the past few years. I know we have better shooters than that. But still....86 points and a win??? Amazing what hustle will do for you. I shutter to think how our team last year or the year before would have done against anybody shooting that poorly. regardless hustle will only get you so far. Got to make shots going forward!!!! I agree with D Wolf. Nard is a beast!!! The last time we have had a healthy L Freeman starting every game we made the Sweet 16. We have really missed his rebounding the past couple of years. He has matured a lot and have put on muscle. He will be a beast for us. He will be the "Richard Howell" we have been missing for the past couple of years but possibly better.. I think the 1 thing this team is missing is a "clutch". The past couple of years we have been pg intensive with Cat Barber and DJS and a lot of players standing around and watching them and not getting involved in the offense. We do not have to worry about that this season because no one is standing around and watching Markell LOl although he has done some very good things like tonight with 7 assist, 4 steals, 1 to and 10 points. He is a hustler not a leader yet and I like that. Our last "clutch" guy was Trevor Lacy. He came form Alabama only averaging about 12 to 14 points a game but transferred to NCSU and became our "clutch" performer that lead us to the Sweet 16. I see a lot T Lacy in Allerick Freeman and think he could be the "go to" guy this year. Have not given up on Dorn either for that role and I think he is more than capable.
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  • D Wolf's Avatar
    16th November 2017, 20:13
    The Pack started off slow tonight, trailing 36-44 at the half. I only tuned in for the 2nd half. What I saw was the Pack playing absolutely smothering defense to finish the game 18 points ahead of Presbyterian. They almost won by 20 as Nard was about to throw one down with about 10 seconds left, but was told to pull it out by Coach Keatts. I don't have the final stat, but they must have forced at least 20 turnovers. The Pack had about 10. I think in the second half Presbyterian probably had as many turnovers as shot attempts. So they obviously turned things around when I tuned in. You're welcome. Oh, and this just in, Nard is looking like a beast. He's developed a touch at the free throw line as well.
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  • Ken Stallings's Avatar
    16th November 2017, 20:08
    Horrid first half shooting by the Pack caused them to go to the locker room down eight points. It was a whole different team in the second half as they ripped off fifty second half points and put the defensive screws down on PC to win by 18 points! Ken
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  • D Wolf's Avatar
    16th November 2017, 12:48
    D Wolf replied to a thread Bryant in Men's Basketball
    Yep. I don't expect that to be a typical shooting night for the Pack. Sam Hunt has a reputation for being able to fill it up from behind the arc. He was 0-5 in that game. Braxton Beverly, who is also reportedly a good shooter, in his first college game went 1-7, 0-3 behind the arc.
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  • Prowling Woofie's Avatar
    16th November 2017, 09:33
    Prowling Woofie replied to a thread @ Wake Forest in Football
    Should be on every wall of the Murphy Center this week....
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  • Stephen Sparks's Avatar
    16th November 2017, 08:33
    Stephen Sparks replied to a thread @ Wake Forest in Football
    The Wake game is just the best game on the schedule. It’s no more or less important than the others. As many have already said, the Pack O needs to move the chains and grind out every score. The Pack D needs to get off the field on 3rd down. We also need to stop giving up the big play which this D seems to have developed a penchant for in the 2nd half of the season. In any case, GO PACK!!!
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  • LSmith's Avatar
    15th November 2017, 22:42
    LSmith replied to a thread Bryant in Men's Basketball
    Last night was the 1rst time I have seen the Keats led Pack play. My thoughts while watching the game was man this is a really bad shooting night (16% from behind the arc, 46% from the field, missed wide open lay ups, etc.). I was like I seen this all before. The difference was the past few years on a shooting night like last night we were looking at 50 to 60 points. Last night by pressing, defensive pressure, extreme hustle, and pushing the pace we scored 95 points and we could not throw it in the ocean. I will take 95 points on bad shooting nights anytime.
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  • Ken Stallings's Avatar
    15th November 2017, 22:07
    Ken Stallings replied to a thread @ Wake Forest in Football
    I was very worried about BC because their game is Kryptonite for our game — tough at the line, solid defense, and ball control smashmouth offense. BC came real close to wearing down our DL. And the foolish gimmick backwards pass darn near gave BC the game! Wake’s game is better for our defense to control, and if our offense can control the clock, it will keep our D fresh the whole game, which should see us avoid collapsing defensively like Syracuse did. It will, of course, be another quality opponent. Ken
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  • avisocan's Avatar
    15th November 2017, 21:48
    avisocan replied to a thread @ Wake Forest in Football
    WF vs. 'Cuse game was nuts -- when I saw the score, I thought it was a basketball game. ;) It's going to be a bit chilly -- and I think Finley and the WR corps has struggled under these conditions. Against Clemson, Hines seemed to be a decoy more than anything. At BC, his action was limited, but productive. A steady dose of Hines, Gallaspy, and Samuels is going to be key to wrecking Wake.
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  • D Wolf's Avatar
    15th November 2017, 20:30
    D Wolf replied to a thread @ Wake Forest in Football
    That last part is our biggest challenge I believe.
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  • Derreck's Avatar
    15th November 2017, 14:13
    Actually, No, he is not.
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  • Derreck's Avatar
    15th November 2017, 13:40
    Derreck replied to a thread @ Wake Forest in Football
    The best defense is a good offense. Wake Forest also gave up 43 against a mediocre offense with a second string QB. Play ball control, keep WF's offense on the sideline, defense get off the field on 3 and long plays and we win this one.
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  • Prowling Woofie's Avatar
    15th November 2017, 13:01
    Prowling Woofie replied to a thread @ Wake Forest in Football
    Wake put 64 on Syracuse, with a 35 point swing after halftime. Offense is innovative and productive, and that QB knows how to run it. Pack D will need to be focused and disciplined (no head shots, Chubb...)
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  • Ken Stallings's Avatar
    15th November 2017, 12:38
    Is he any relation to Lawrence Funderburk? Ken
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  • Ken Stallings's Avatar
    15th November 2017, 12:34
    Ken Stallings replied to a thread Bryant in Men's Basketball
    Outstanding! It was the right decision for the NCAA to make and they stubbornly held firm amid a lot of backlash. I think sadly, it was money that really motivated them. And that factors into way too many of their decisions. Ken
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  • Ken Stallings's Avatar
    15th November 2017, 12:29
    I think that's a very fair assessment of the NBA's motivations and interests. I would only counter to say that ultimately, the quality of the games is the greatest drawing card. And the influence of the one-and-done players isn't helping the overall quality of the NBA game in my view because the players just aren't as polished as they used to be when the common trend for even star players like Michael Jordan was at least three years of college progression. Ken
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  • Derreck's Avatar
    15th November 2017, 11:25
    Yea, this seemed out of left field. No real discussion on him anywhere but glad to have him. He is the #1 ranked JUCO player in the nation. I guess Keatts feels there will be some attrition after the season.
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  • D Wolf's Avatar
    15th November 2017, 11:00
    D Wolf replied to a thread Recruiting update: in Men's Basketball
    Well, available scholarship or not, the Pack just signed another player for next year. The top rated JUCO player this year, Derek Funderburk (6'9" center) will play for the Pack next season with 3 years of eligibility remaining. He was a 4 start player out of Hargrave (played with Braxton Beverly and for Asst Coach AW Hamilton) signed by Ohio State. He redshirted his first season and was dismissed from the team for “failure to meet team expectations”. No details available about that. This year he is playing for JUCO Northwest Florida State College. When signed by Ohio State he was the 49th ranked recruit of that class. He's a big addition to the class in more ways than one. The question remains how Keatts will handle the scholarship issue.
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  • D Wolf's Avatar
    15th November 2017, 10:14
    I had never thought of it that way. Good point MGV.
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  • Derreck's Avatar
    15th November 2017, 07:52
    Derreck replied to a thread Bryant in Men's Basketball
    This, Basically the Beverlys lawyered up and if the NCAA had not reversed the decision they would have challenged it in court. Add in the public backlash from the decision to sit Beverly as well as the decision to sit a kid for a game that played in a Church League Basketball game, the NCAA needed to do something right to take the heat off.
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  • Derreck's Avatar
    15th November 2017, 07:47
    MGV, I think you are partially correct. I think the other part is the NBA also uses college basketball as a screening process so the teams save money on not developing the D-League into a legitimate minor league system. Fortunately the NBA has no say in eligibility requirements with NCAA. So if the NCAA wants to institute the baseball rule for basketball then they can. The way the NBA set up the D-League, if you are 18 years of Age you can play in the D-league.
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  • LSmith's Avatar
    15th November 2017, 05:44
    LSmith replied to a thread Bryant in Men's Basketball
    Apparently after the Beverlys retained a lawyer and a lot of public backlash the NCAA reversed their decision.
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  • Mad Gene Vane's Avatar
    15th November 2017, 05:32
    Ken, The NBA loves the one-and-done because it builds a following for these players. Why would we care about a Dallas Mavericks rookie point guard? That's not a team people from NC follow. Now thousands of basketball fans from NC are keeping an eye out on how the Mavericks are doing. You don't get that sort of built in fan base for rookies, if they come straight from high school to the pros. And the NBA's success, as a league, is in attracting eyeballs to watch their product based on people being fans of certain players, beyond the teams they would normally root for. OMG! Russell Westbrook is playing. I want to see the guy, who averaged a triple double last year or some other player with celebrity status. One-and-done fills this celebrity status role for highly touted rookies, to some extent.
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  • Ken Stallings's Avatar
    14th November 2017, 21:42
    Ken Stallings replied to a thread Bryant in Men's Basketball
    Did the NCAA reverse itself on Beverly? Ken
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  • LSmith's Avatar
    14th November 2017, 20:05
    LSmith replied to a thread Bryant in Men's Basketball
    Pack wins 95-72. Big night for Dorn with 26 points. Pack only shot 16% from behind the 3 point line but forced 27 turnovers.
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