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  • LSmith's Avatar
    19th September 2019, 11:12
    I always thought Kiffin resigned to coach in the NFL. His records in 3 years were 6-5, 4-7, and 6-5. Certainly a step down from the Bo Rein days but not "dreadful" and had a pretty good coaching staff with Pete Caroll as his DC. Now I will agree the Tom Reed era was dreadful.
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  • Ken Stallings's Avatar
    18th September 2019, 18:58
    Erik Kramer, Jamie Barnett, and Shane Montgomery all played in the late 1980ís to nineties. The real doldrums was before the arrival of Dick Sheridan. Monte Kiffin replaced Bo Rein, and after Willis Casey fired Kiffen, he hired Tom Reed. Kiffinís coached from 1980 to 1982, a record of 16-17 (8-10 ACC). Tom Reed coached from 1983 to 1985, a record of 9-24 (4-17 ACC). Those were the dreadful years, and thatís why folks like me considered Sheridan to be a miracle worker, or as Bisher wrote him, ďable to walk on water!Ē
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  • Matt Nicholson's Avatar
    18th September 2019, 03:24
    Terry Jordan >>Terry Harvey Harvey threw a school record 6 INTs to FSUs secondary. He only completed 5 to his own receivers that game. He had a hell of a fastball and threw a no hitter. But if he's one of our 10 best QBs, our legacy prior to 2000 must be absolutely dreadful.
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  • Ken Stallings's Avatar
    17th September 2019, 20:12
    His career echoed that of Lou Holtz, though running the veer option itís hard to say if he was more running back or quarterback. No doubt he guided the Pack during a four year period of success that frankly has not been duplicated. Ken
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  • LSmith's Avatar
    16th September 2019, 18:52
    Although he did not have the stats because he was a veer QB, Dave Buckey won a lot of games for us and from what I remember had a pretty good arm. Had no trouble finding his brother Don and connecting.
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  • Derreck's Avatar
    16th September 2019, 04:12
    Derreck started a thread Ball State in Football
    Time to rebound.
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  • Derreck's Avatar
    16th September 2019, 04:09
    I think only one team has a rating of below 300. Last years schedule had five.
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  • Ken Stallings's Avatar
    16th September 2019, 00:00
    It's all about opinions, and I would invite all to chime in with their top ten picks for all time best NC State quarterbacks. 1. Phillip Rivers: It's kind of hard to make a good argument against Rivers being the best ever. Many old timers would give a sentimental nod to Roman Gabriel, but the stats and the legacy make this a consensus choice. Rivers is number one all time in passing yards and passing touchdowns. He's also number one all time in all purpose yards and touchdowns. And all that is true for career, single season, and single game measures! Further, Rivers is a cinch now to be a first ballot NFL Hall of Fame player, something not even Gabriel is able to claim as he was voted to the unofficial "NFL Hall of Very Good" class, which means he's a bridesmaid to Canton, Ohio. 2. Roman Gabriel: If this was a statistical measure, Gabriel wouldn't be in the top ten. But, there are strong arguments that players should be evaluated based upon the era they played in. Gabriel was a strong arm quarterback in an era where football was a ground oriented game. Gabriel's completion percentage is a very strong 56.3%, with 2951 yards passing and a career QBR of 109.8. The era measure is validated by the fact that Gabriel was selected 1960 and 1961 ACC Player of the Year, and on a team that was not considered the best in the ACC any of those years. He finished ninth in the 1961 Heisman Trophy race and was selected second in the NFL draft (first in the AFL). 3. Ryan Finley: Many might wish to put Russell Wilson in this slot, but frankly, Finley's statistics put him solidly into the number three slot. In fact, statistically, Finley would be ranked #2 in this tally. Given that not much changed in the way the game was played between Wilson's and Finley's careers, then the statistical argument seems quite fair. Finley ranks behind only Phillip Rivers in passing statistics, tallying 10,501 to Rivers' 13,484. The big difference is in touchdowns, but more on that later. Finley hasn't had enough time to establish his NFL numbers, but it would seem logical to say he will eventually be a starting QB in the professional game. 4. Russell Wilson: Wilson ranks fourth all time in passing yards at NC State. However, he ranks second in passing touchdowns to only Rivers (76 to 95). One can also add another 16 touchdowns scored rushing. Wilson was everything to NC State's offense during his three years at the helm. For those who saw him in action, it was clear that Wilson's talent covered up for what was a weak offensive line playing in front of him, and with a talent level that was significantly below average overall. Without Wilson, it is doubtful that Tom O'Brien would have enjoyed any success at NC State, and certainly not enjoyed a long term coaching career. Time after time, Wilson single-handedly kept offensive drives alive by rushing for a miracle first down on a busted play, or when the defense stymied every other option. ...
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  • LSmith's Avatar
    15th September 2019, 20:28
    Yeah I am still scratching my head on why GT did not go after Mike Houston. He is someone who was a veer coach when he was in D2 and could have eased the transition better to more traditional play like he did at James Madison.
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  • LSmith's Avatar
    15th September 2019, 20:22
    LSmith replied to a thread @WVU in Football
    To me McKay is playing like a back-up QB. That is what he has been. Play it safe. Don't go in and throw an interception. He has all the instincts. He is not the most talented QB we have but the one who knows the offense the best. To hell with that! Put the most talented in there, take our lumps on turnovers, but someone who will deliver the ball in tight situations and give a chance to win.
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  • Matt Nicholson's Avatar
    15th September 2019, 00:50
    Matt Nicholson replied to a thread @WVU in Football
    WVU is not a good team. They got steamrolled by Mizzou, and beat JMU by less than a TD. I believe they had less than 100 yards TOTAL rushing prior to this game. If McKay is the best QB we have, we are in serious trouble. Not just this year, but at least another 1-2 years until we can land a prospect.
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  • Ken Stallings's Avatar
    14th September 2019, 16:59
    Yeah, that's exactly what I thought when I first saw that shocking score! There is no joy in Atlanta! Ken
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  • LSmith's Avatar
    14th September 2019, 15:04
    There is an ACC team that had a worse day than the Pack. The Citadel came into this game with 2 losses to Towson and Elon and then beat Ga Tech. Geoff Collins has his work cut out for him. This is one of the reasons I am glad we did not hire Paul Johnson when we were considering him after Chuck Amato. Paul is a great coach but when you run a contrarian system like the veer flexbone and recruit to that system for years and when you retire you have a lot of square pegs that don't fit round holes. Gonna be a uphill battle for Collins at Ga Tech.
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  • Ken Stallings's Avatar
    14th September 2019, 13:42
    Ken Stallings replied to a thread @WVU in Football
    Well, we were flat outplayed in this one. McKay is continuing to overthrow his receivers who have beaten defenders on go routes. Having a powerful arm isn't helpful if you don't have the touch to drop it in the basket, and McKay isn't even close on these routes. Consistently, he is overthrowing the ball by 5-10 yards. It was said he was the most accurate passer in spring scrimmage, so I have to wonder if he's putting the same force on the passes in practice as he is game time. I wondered if he unconsciously amped up during the game, and was hoping he would settle down after a few game and correct that, but not so far. What today's result says is as much about ECU and WCU as it does about NC State. There are no more cupcakes on our schedule and several high quality opponents. We got a true road test today, and frankly we didn't pass it! Ken
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  • Mad Gene Vane's Avatar
    14th September 2019, 13:15
    Mad Gene Vane replied to a thread @WVU in Football
    Our players are slower than the WVA players. WVA has been awful, in the first two games. We are making them look like world beaters. I have doubts, if we will be bowl eligible this year. We'll need some lucky breaks to beat ACC teams. If this game is any indication, we do not have the coaching or personnel to beat anyone, without help.
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  • Ken Stallings's Avatar
    14th September 2019, 12:36
    Ken Stallings replied to a thread @WVU in Football
    That was the worst special teams punt blocking I have ever seen. Never before have I seen a defender be able to come up the middle without anyone standing in his way, much less actually block him. Without any opposition provided, the WVU rusher actually had to pull up to WAIT for our punter to go into his kicking motion! In hindsight, he could have just tackled our punter nearly coincidental to him receiving the snap! Regardless, it wasn't so much a punt block as it was a punt smother! Giving WVU the ball in the red zone may have been the back breaker in this game. Whatever the blocking scheme was supposed to be, that was an epic failure! Ken
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  • Ken Stallings's Avatar
    14th September 2019, 10:46
    Ken Stallings replied to a thread @WVU in Football
    On the other hand, I am very concerned about how WVU's offensive line is dominating this game right now, and that strength factor rarely wears out as the game goes on. WVU is gashing our defense for huge run gains, and it all is because of the dominance of our front seven by their front six. Combine that with some excellent speed options on sweep options, and it's a killer. They aren't so much running misdirection as they are just sealing the edge on these sweeps and setting up outstanding running lanes. Right now, their offensive line can open up holes inside and outside, and that has to be solved or this is going to be a very long day. Ken
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  • Ken Stallings's Avatar
    14th September 2019, 10:34
    Ken Stallings replied to a thread @WVU in Football
    And now the third series of flags get thrown for a late hit on McKay. It was called targeting, and is under review. The targeting was waived off this time, but it was a very close margin, and really should have been confirmed. Still, unnecessary roughness was called. Ken
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  • Ken Stallings's Avatar
    14th September 2019, 10:28
    Ken Stallings replied to a thread @WVU in Football
    I seriously wonder if the West Virginia defenders took drugs before this game! They are playing like crazed lunatics, complete with personal foul penalties on our first two offensive series, and the second one just now is going to get the WVU player ejected from the game. Not only was his hit egregiously late, but helmet to helmet and #4 was thrown out of the game. The entire WVU team is hyped up, which is normally a very good thing. But, they are playing on perhaps too high an emotional level which may burn itself out. Ken
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  • Stephen Sparks's Avatar
    14th September 2019, 09:59
    Stephen Sparks replied to a thread @WVU in Football
    It's almost time to start. Keys to the game: Offense: 1. Start quick, get up by a couple of scores and take the Mountaineers team and fans out for the game. 2. Extend drives, CONVERT 3rd downs!!!! 3. Continue to keep the pocket clean and run the damn ball well. Defense:
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  • Matt Nicholson's Avatar
    13th September 2019, 15:36
    Aside from the addition of Memphis to the schedule (NIT last year) this isn't much of an improvement over last year. Detroit Mercy? Alcorn State?
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  • Matt Nicholson's Avatar
    13th September 2019, 15:33
    Cam Hayes commits! He's big time. Great get by Keatts.
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  • Ken Stallings's Avatar
    13th September 2019, 13:36
    Ken Stallings replied to a thread @WVU in Football
    This game is being somewhat buried in advertising as it is being broadcast on Fox Sports 1. Game time is noon Saturday. I know that DirecTV carried FS1, but I have no idea how your various cable providers might list it. Ken
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  • Derreck's Avatar
    13th September 2019, 04:36
    https://gopack.com/news/2019/9/12/pack-announces-2019-20-mens-basketball-schedule.aspx
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  • Derreck's Avatar
    10th September 2019, 11:56
    The HC might not last the season.
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  • Stephen Sparks's Avatar
    10th September 2019, 07:29
    Stephen Sparks replied to a thread @WVU in Football
    Yes, yes, yes Derreck. WVU looks to be down this year given the 2 game sample, but State hasnít really proved much against two overmatched opponents. Gotta be able to convert 3rd downs and extend drives to win this one. Thatís about it.
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  • Stephen Sparks's Avatar
    9th September 2019, 13:41
    Stephen Sparks replied to a thread WCU in Football
    The Pack took care of business despite the sluggish 1st Quarter start. IMO the play calling against WCU was dictated more by the fact they couldnít stop the run at all vs. State not being able to throw the ball. Having said that, theyíre going to have to find ways to move the ball through the air vertically once competition ramps up in ACC play and next Saturday. Also, 3rd down conversions are really alarming at this point. The competition is only going to get tougher and the ability of the offense to extend drives is only going to become more and more crucial. On Defense, wow just wow, theyíre really pinning their ears back and going after the opposing team. Just keep it up. Overall, I donít think we know anymore about how the 2019 Version of Wolfpack football will play out. Both ECU and WCU were overmatched by the talent State has amassed. I donít feel like Iíve seen enough to give an overall final record of 7-5 for the season. 8 wins is a possibility but McKay will have to do better at completing the intermediate and long passes. Also, 3rd down conversions has to improve. Do that and I really like the guys in red chances.
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  • Derreck's Avatar
    9th September 2019, 13:11
    Derreck replied to a thread WCU in Football
    Its not like McKay did not drop dimes, he did. He made some throws that were spot on and difficult. The TD to TE in the end zone for one. That shows me he has the ability and can. He has also done it consistently in practice. Now it is getting it to translate, which most QB's struggle with. Jacoby did quite a bit his first year as a starter here. His career turned out quite well I would say. And dont forget McKay is quite young for a RS sophomore. I think he is still only 18.
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  • packinjax's Avatar
    9th September 2019, 07:11
    packinjax replied to a thread WCU in Football
    It's not as worrisome to overthrow receivers when you have a track record/history. Without that history, it's more worrisome. Especially when I watched the UNC vs USC game and their UNCs QB was dropping the ball in on a dime. But like you said, it's early.
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  • packinjax's Avatar
    9th September 2019, 06:57
    I'm taking my family to Doak when we're there. Last time I went Stone was the QB, he leveled one of their linebackers on a scramble, we won. Hopefully we'll have a similar result.
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  • Derreck's Avatar
    9th September 2019, 04:47
    Derreck replied to a thread 2020 Recruiting Class in Football
    https://insidepacksports.com/players/10595/devon-betty LB Devon Betty has picked the Pack!
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  • Derreck's Avatar
    9th September 2019, 04:27
    Derreck started a thread @WVU in Football
    We are about to find out where the Pack is as a team.
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  • Derreck's Avatar
    9th September 2019, 04:27
    Derreck replied to a thread WCU in Football
    It was ugly in the first quarter but the team settled down. I am not as concerned about McKay as others. Only game experience with film review will help with that. Heck Big Ben was overthrowing wide open receivers last night. It happens, just be a bit patient. I will say that McKay looked his best in the hurry up offense.
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  • Ken Stallings's Avatar
    7th September 2019, 19:29
    Florida State is an enigma. They still enjoy excellent recruiting classes, but the Noles blew a fourth quarter lead against Boise State, in which they led 31-13 with four minutes left in the first half. Then, in their second game against Louisiana-Monroe, they led 24-7 at half, and then blew that lead twice in the fourth quarter to see the game go there way when the LM kicker shanked an extra point in the first overtime! Ken
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  • LSmith's Avatar
    7th September 2019, 17:23
    LSmith replied to a thread WCU in Football
    Had a sideline pass for today's game. Had some concern with McKay after watching game last week and really not sold on him seeing him at field level today. Consistently overthrowing receivers and really concern on his progressions and ability to see the field. There were wide open receivers not seen on almost every play. Angeline was wide open on the post on a few occasions without a defender within 10 feet of him and I believe McKay was the only one in the stadium who did not see him. He is going to have to get a lot more crisp to have success against good defenses. We did not really get a good look at Hockman today because of Doeren's conservative play calling not wanting to run the score up anymore when he was in. WCU was without their starting QB Adams today who is also their leading rusher for disciplinary reasons so not surprised on the shut out but holding them to only 8 yards rushing was impressive. Pack D has only allowed a total of 49 yards rushing in 2 games.
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  • Ken Stallings's Avatar
    7th September 2019, 14:54
    Ken Stallings replied to a thread WCU in Football
    The tune up is over. Next week, the challenges begin. Ken
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  • Ken Stallings's Avatar
    4th September 2019, 16:42
    Ken Stallings replied to a thread Beer Sales Report in Football
    Never in my life did I think Iíd see Tuffy on a beer can! Ken
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  • Derreck's Avatar
    4th September 2019, 13:39
    Derreck started a thread Beer Sales Report in Football
    Some info re: Carter-Finley beer sales during NC Stateís win over ECU. 12,265 cans sold. 42% of sales were New Belgiumís Old Tuffy. C-F had 48 points of sale, but theyíre looking to increase it. Theyíre also exploring some cash only lines as the season progresses. Per Joe Ovies...
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  • Ken Stallings's Avatar
    3rd September 2019, 20:05
    Ken Stallings replied to a thread WCU in Football
    Encourage the team to avoid reading the positive press from the ECU game and focus on this one upcoming! Ken
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  • Derreck's Avatar
    3rd September 2019, 07:03
    Derreck started a thread WCU in Football
    Lets get the timing down and experience under our belt during this game.
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    3rd September 2019, 07:03
    Derreck replied to a thread ECU in Football
    The D was very vanilla this game (as was the O) and it took a couple of offensive series for the D to adjust to the changes the coaching staff at ECU made with the personal they have at ECU vs. JMU. ECU's first drive was 75 yards. After that the longest drive was 38 until the final drive where ECU had 61. ECU had 7 drives of 20 yards or less, Of those 7, 5 of the drives were for 5 yards or less.
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  • Ken Stallings's Avatar
    1st September 2019, 10:14
    Cole did a lot more than try out. He made the roster as their starting punter! Congrats to AJ! Ken
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  • Ken Stallings's Avatar
    31st August 2019, 23:46
    Ken Stallings started a thread QB-U in Alumni in the Pro's
    I saw this presented by the TV crew working today's ECU game. I have to apologize to Jalan McClendon, as I did not know he was still on an NFL roster, but as of the ECU game, he was still on the Washington Redskins roster! That gave NC State the most alumni quarterbacks on NFL rosters: Philip Rivers: Chargers (starter) Russell Wilson: Seahaws (starter) Mike Glennon: Raiders Jacoby Brissett: Colts (starter now that Andrew Luck retired) Ryan Finley: Bengals (beat out Jeff Driskel for the backup postion) Jalan McClendon: Redskins
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  • LSmith's Avatar
    31st August 2019, 21:11
    LSmith replied to a thread ECU in Football
    Only got to see the 1rst quarter because of work today and was really concern about our D on that 1rst drive by ECU but really a heck of a day by the D given up only 41 yards rushing which has become a Huxtable trademark the past few seasons. Great start for McKay with 300 plus passing. I also thought the O-line looked very good on what I saw in the 1rst quarter and apparently had a good game with the Pack rushing close to 200 yards by committee.
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  • Ken Stallings's Avatar
    31st August 2019, 17:56
    Ken Stallings started a thread UNC vx USC in Other Schools
    You live long enough and you see things. But, I cannot recall seeing a team in control of a game and then when leading 20-9, and with the first sign of adversity, quit despite still leading! But, that is exactly what Will Muschamp's Gamecocks did in the Belk Kickoff game versus UNC. By all rights, UNC scored the final 21 points of the game, to win 30-20, but for some unknown reason, the officials also gave up on the game, and prematurely blew the whistle even as a UNC defender scooped up a fumble on a sack and ran into the end zone. The ESPN crew even tallied the score on the board before it was meaninglessly ruled a non-score and the game over with UNC winning 24-20. With four minutes left in the third quarter, and USC leading 20-9, the Cocks had a 94.8% chance of winning the game. They then gave up chunk yardage runs time after time until the Heels scored with 14:27 left in the game to make it 20-15, and then the Cocks surrendered a two-point conversion to make it 20-17 and the entire sideline for South Carolina looked like they wanted to walk to the buses and leave! The team made it official as the Heels them stopped the Cocks and proceeded to tack on chunk yard pass after pass until they took a 24-20 lead with 8:26 left. In a spread of just four minutes of clock time, the Heels went from a 22% chance to win to an 80.4% chance to win, with plenty of time left in the game. With that time, UNC gave South Carolina plenty of opportunities to show some desire and get back into the game, but inaccurate passes, foolish penalties, inadequate desire to catch a ball, and poor blocking all revealed the lack of desire in the team wearing the garnet and white. A team has to have heart to win, and South Carolina as a team lacked heart, and that's not something you can practice on!
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  • Ken Stallings's Avatar
    31st August 2019, 13:07
    Ken Stallings replied to a thread ECU in Football
    People are going to see this score and yawn, but ECU is a better football team than this score is going to indicate, and in the first quarter, they played tough and got very unlucky several times, both in losing a fumble in the endzone, and by failing to recover two fumbles we made. You flip those three plays and ECU had a real opportunity to grab an early lead in this game. I am happy by what I saw today given the inexperience of this team. In terms of rebuild looks, this is the best situation I have seen for NC State ever. It looks like it might be more of a reload vice a rebuild, and that's how you want it to be. Next week's game versus Western Carolina will be our final tune up, and then the schedule gets very challenging. https://www.espn.com/college-football/recap?gameId=401112432 Ken
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  • Ken Stallings's Avatar
    31st August 2019, 10:29
    Ken Stallings replied to a thread ECU in Football
    I like the updated targeting rule, that forces a confirmation of the call. It seems to me to be a good balance between taking the head out of the game and not unrfairly penalizing the player. I think a lot of flags will be thrown, and many overturned. But, I think that's the whole point. If there is doubt, the on field officials will throw the flag, and then detailed review will ultimately decide. Ken
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  • Ken Stallings's Avatar
    31st August 2019, 10:22
    Ken Stallings replied to a thread ECU in Football
    ECU fumbled their way out of an opening drive touchdown, and then Matt McKay showed tremendous poise and talent in guiding the offense down the field for a touchdown. First impressions on McKay confirms what nearly everyone said about him in scrimmage -- that's he is ready to excel. ECU has a good offense, and they showed it. I hope our defense is better able to handle the ECU spread offense their second time around. The first time, it didn't look ready. Ken
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  • LSmith's Avatar
    30th August 2019, 15:24
    LSmith replied to a thread Countdown to Kickoff 2019 in Football
    Not a lot of pig pickin going on with these noon kickoffs. I will be at the game next week and instead of pig and beer it will probably be egg biscuits and bloody marys.
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  • Derreck's Avatar
    30th August 2019, 05:32
    Derreck replied to a thread Countdown to Kickoff 2019 in Football
    1 Day!!!!!
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