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    UNCG gets the #1 over us.

    Clemson who we beat twice is also a #2.

    That's hysterical.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Nicholson View Post
    UNCG gets the #1 over us.

    Clemson who we beat twice is also a #2.

    That's hysterical.
    Oh, thereís a lot here that fails to pass the siff check! Derreck and I were not seeking to diminish your concerns out of any sense of personal conflict, but just because of the many promises that the NCAA made about rejecting the RPI as a selection metric, and using only those referenced in Yowís blistering commentary.

    Those so referenced rankings do all take strength of schedule into account, but were designed to not elevate non-conference SoS so high as the last revised RPIís did.

    Had the NCAA not spent the time since August 2018 assuring the Power 5 conferences that this new system would be used, the Derreck and I both would have confirmed your concerns. Joe Lunardiís comments confirm what Iíve long suspected, that heís getting feedback from members of the selection committee (off the record) and so he knew they were going to use the RPI vice the NET and other rankings.

    Conferences work hard to put schedules together designed to get their teams in the NCAA Tournament. NC State did that, and people who reneged on made promises used different cirteria and are joined by a chorus of uninformed people who never knew about all those promises that the NCAA made.

    How outrageous?

    Imagine that the #33 team in the RPI was left out of last yearís field! Last year, that team was Arizona State. That team was selected for the Dance last year.

    Last year, NC State was #60 in the selection RPI, and was also picked for the Dance!

    This year, our RPI ranking was #98, but that wasnít to be a measure used! To show how out of touch with reality the RPI truly is, it ranked Clemson at #61!

    This more of the same money play by the mid-majors and the only thing leftfor the Power 5 is to formally break away from the NCAA. The NET was last Augustís effort by the NCAA to satisfy Power 5 conference anger to keep them in the fold.

    And the selection committee broke their word!

    As I wrote, expect hell to come!

    Ken

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    Sorry for all the typos, but Iím at work and so am forced to type using my iPad! That method of typing doesnít keep up with my thoughts!

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    Hereís the difference between RPI and NET.

    RPI rewards a team for playing in a weak conference and beating them up, and playing ó win or lose ó a slate of nationally ranked non-conference opponents. RPI doesnít reward a team for taking the nation's #1 team into overtime and losing barely if that is a conference game, and the NET does reward that.

    The mid-majors tweaked the RPI to give them their desired outcomes to the point that it became glaringly obvious.

    The NET was deliberately designed to correct those creeping inequities. Thatís how NC State could be barely above #100 in the RPI, but #33 in the NET.

    The ugly truth of selection politics is laid bare now.

    Ken
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    Last I am gonna comment on this but dont see how any person with a couple of brain cells can look at us and St Johns and put them in the dance and snub us. They had a losing record in the Big Easy. The only top 25 OOC team they played was Duke and lost by 30. They had a Net of 73. Their only big wins were against Marquette and Villinova in conference but had plenty of bad losses to boot. WTF?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LSmith View Post
    Last I am gonna comment on this but dont see how any person with a couple of brain cells can look at us and St Johns and put them in the dance and snub us. They had a losing record in the Big Easy. The only top 25 OOC team they played was Duke and lost by 30. They had a Net of 73. Their only big wins were against Marquette and Villinova in conference but had plenty of bad losses to boot. WTF?

    It's called money!

    The work is deliberate and has been ongoing for many years now. These people don't care about merit, but instead cutting up the money so that every conference in America gets a big slice. In their mind, the ACC got their seven and that's all it was going to get! After those seven, they searched for reasons to justify their denial of an eighth and a ninth bid.

    The list of big conference teams with deserving resumes was significant and this has been going on for way too long now.

    Simply put, we were all lied to.

    Ken

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