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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Nicholson View Post
    Blown. Out. By ECU. This team started 27-1.

    This was an inexcusable end to a very promising start. And it's just the latest chapter of on ongoing theme.

    It may be time for a change?
    A change without investing in facilities is futile. We have one of the worst facilities for baseball in the ACC. So it would be difficult to attract a coach to State that would not be using us as a springboard. ECU's baseball facilities are 10x's better than ours and they are a Group of 5 school.

    Avent is an enigma. The one glaring hole in is resume is no ACC Championships. Aside from that his resume is pretty darn good. We have been to the playoff's 15 of the last 17 years and 18 of 23 for his career at State, 4 Super Regional appearances, and one CWS appearance. He is 875-528 in his career at State (Most wins and Most losses). He has also played for 5 ACCT's and just come up short. We are a well above average team under Avent so it is a difficult decision.

    IMO, Avent has just a few years left (He is 63). Invest in the facilities, allow Avent to coach toward retirement while the facilities are upgraded. Its not like we are a crap team that cannot afford to wait to make a change, we are still a threat to be a Super Regional caliber team year in and year out. So fix the facilities and wait. Avent is well regarded in baseball circles and allowing him to save face and retire is what is best for both parties at this point.
    "You have to understand, I grew up a NC State fan. Every State-Carolina basketball game, football game, I've been there. It's fun, and if you like to competing and I love competing... that will be extra special."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Derreck View Post
    A change without investing in facilities is futile. We have one of the worst facilities for baseball in the ACC. So it would be difficult to attract a coach to State that would not be using us as a springboard. ECU's baseball facilities are 10x's better than ours and they are a Group of 5 school.

    Avent is an enigma. The one glaring hole in is resume is no ACC Championships. Aside from that his resume is pretty darn good. We have been to the playoff's 15 of the last 17 years and 18 of 23 for his career at State, 4 Super Regional appearances, and one CWS appearance. He is 875-528 in his career at State (Most wins and Most losses). He has also played for 5 ACCT's and just come up short. We are a well above average team under Avent so it is a difficult decision.

    IMO, Avent has just a few years left (He is 63). Invest in the facilities, allow Avent to coach toward retirement while the facilities are upgraded. Its not like we are a crap team that cannot afford to wait to make a change, we are still a threat to be a Super Regional caliber team year in and year out. So fix the facilities and wait. Avent is well regarded in baseball circles and allowing him to save face and retire is what is best for both parties at this point.
    In my view, this is the right measure. Baseball will always be inherently unpredictable. Also, in the college version, that reality is exacerbated by the MLB amateur draft. A kid can be drafted high enough that he chooses to take the bonus pool money and forego a scholarship offer. So, a college team can go from a dominant recruiting class to an average one. Since MLB has always put a premium on drafting high school pitchers, the pool of highly talented pitchers for college teams is small. Carlos Rodon was injured and passed over for the MLB selection until at such time he calculated he would do better for himself by enrolling at NC State and turning into the world class pitcher that he became, and led NC State to the CWS in his junior season.

    We hired a new pitching coach to try to better develop pitchers, but honestly we still have not replaced Tom Holliday. Clint Chrysler comes highly rated, but this year's staff ended up being the weak link on the team. We could score runs and for the most part played excellent defense, but our pitching staff was very thin, and too often against good offensive teams, they coughed up four and five run deficits after the first or second inning, a hole that is difficult to crawl out from under. A high percentage of our wins during that 27-1 run were come from behind variety, and you cannot last a full season like that. And honestly, I would bet that Tom Holliday in hindsight wishes he had remained at NC State, as he lasted just one year (2015) in the same position at Auburn and was out of coaching entirely until he was named a manager in the Cape Cod League in 2017.

    Initially, our offense looked strong enough to carry this team to another CWS berth, but after the Florida State series, the weaknesses got revealed and exploited repeatedly. As a team, we had a top ten offense and a middling pitching staff. That averaged things out to us being a top twenty team. I really don't know what Avent could have done differently this season.

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    Here is what I think is a stark comparison to prove the point that Derreck made regarding our baseball facilities, though this is simply a straight up comparison of our two stadiums. The nagging part of this is that the way Doak Field is today is ton's better than it was when a near abandonment of Doak Field caused Ray Tanner to bolt for South Carolina.


    Doak Field



    LeClair Stadium

    The seating capacity at LeClair Stadium is roughly triple that of Doak Field. The parking is more expansive also.

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    East Carolina enjoyed a brief cup of coffee at the Super Regional, as Louisville demolished the Pirates in two straight games, winning 14-1 on Friday and then 12-0 on Saturday! Thank you for coming -- enjoy your flight back to Greenville!

    Louisville therefore became the first team to punch their ticket to the CWS.

    Frankly, the only surprise for Louisville this year is that they were bounced in the ACC Tournament, where they came in the top ranked team and were expected to win the crown.

    Nice consolation prize, so far, to win their Super Regional!

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